If you are planning on striking tomorrow, more power to you. I most likely will not, simply because (and this may sound really egotistical, so I apologize in advance) I really don't care. I have a paid account, and if they get to a point where I feel they are impinging on what I want to post on my account, I will move to a Wordpress blog.

Please don't hate mail my comments. I'm all about exercising your freedom - I just ask that you respect me exercising mine.
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From: [identity profile] vg-ford.livejournal.com


Thanks! :) I was a little worried about posting, but most of my flist is pretty laid back and cool about these things.

From: [identity profile] peartreealley.livejournal.com


I'm pretty much in the same boat.

Ultimately, I use LJ as a platform for my online community. If the majority of my community (meaning the people I follow on LJ), changed platforms, then I'd move with them. My friends are more important to me than the platform.

From: [identity profile] domynoe.livejournal.com


They're doing an LJ strike? Lord.

*shakes head*

Honestly, just dumb. Sorry, but it is. LJ has to make the money to take care of the servers everything is hosted on, and I seriously doubt the paid accounts even cover the basic accounts, so it makes sense to drop them and have advertising on the "free" accounts to help defray the costs.

Just...ug. :P

From: [identity profile] queenoftheskies.livejournal.com


I agree completely.

LJ is a business and, as such, we have to abide by their rules. We're playing in THEIR playground.

Those who don't like it can take their toys and go play somewhere else. (As many have done.)

From: [identity profile] aulus-poliutos.livejournal.com


They must do something wrong. They already charge for things that are free on Blogger and Wordpress (like photo upload and customizing templates), and now they need to force ads on free accounts. If you run google ads on Blogger, they money goes into your purse.

Well, I've moved away long ago and only use my account to comment on other LJs. Mostly because of the crappy software and the shaky copyright policy.

From: [identity profile] peartreealley.livejournal.com


I'm baffled at the ad-hate. IJ is riddled with ads, and people have been fleeing there...

From: [identity profile] vg-ford.livejournal.com


Agreed. LJ was where I started, but if my friends move, I'll move.

From: [identity profile] vg-ford.livejournal.com


And honestly, I don't see how a strike is going to do much. But that's just me.

From: [identity profile] vg-ford.livejournal.com


I dunno. I pay for my account and I see no ads. So I really don't care (gosh, that really does sound egotistical).

But honestly, you get what you pay for.

From: [identity profile] vg-ford.livejournal.com


And really, where do you go on the Web nowadays that DOESN'T have ads?

From: [identity profile] queenoftheskies.livejournal.com


You're right. And the IJ ads are particularly annoying. Though, like LJ, the paid accounts don't have them.

However, the original migration to IJ was because of all the fandom/porn kerfluffle and not ads.

From: [identity profile] peartreealley.livejournal.com


Oh, I know that's the origin of the original migration, I'm just baffled/amused that there are complaints from similar communities that LJ making free accounts have ads is a horrible thing when the main place of migration has ads, too.

Does that make more sense?

From: [identity profile] satyrs-grove.livejournal.com


*blink*

There's a strike?

*blink*

There's a problem?

*blink* *blink*

From: [identity profile] vg-ford.livejournal.com


Yep. People are wangsting again. *is oblivious*

Are you free tomorrow night?

From: [identity profile] queenoftheskies.livejournal.com


Definitely makes sense. A lot of the people on IJ (many of whom still have LJ accounts that they occasionally visit) just still want to throw stones, I think.

Also, I think the fact that interests were censored riled people up and after that was corrected, they still wanted a reason to complain.

People complain a lot, don't you think?

From: [identity profile] domynoe.livejournal.com


A lot of the people on IJ (many of whom still have LJ accounts that they occasionally visit) just still want to throw stones, I think.

I think this is a lot of that. Nonny mentioned an interview in response to my post about this, but, when you look at the posted reasons for the strike, the interview doesn't come into play:

1. Restore basic accounts for new account creation.

2. Inform users before any change to the site that affects how we use the site or demands on our resources.

3. Run change proposals by the Advisory Board and take their advice into account before implementation of any change.

4. Homophobia, misogyny, and racism must not be a part of the decision making processes about appropriate content of the site, including what user interests are deemed appropriate.


Take #4 out of the picture, and it's all about ad-free accounts and WHINE we should approve that first! Sorry, the user isn't running th business. and, if given the option, the user will take free and ad-free every time. Yes?

From: [identity profile] beard5.livejournal.com


I'm not participating in the strike either, however, I post so rarely I don't think it makes a difference :p

Oh, I left you a message on your phone yesterday. I'll try to see you in chat, or something. (Basically I'm hoping that Argus gets home before 5 on Tuesdays so I can steal a ride from him to a calligraphy class)

From: [identity profile] vg-ford.livejournal.com


LOL! Chinese buffet in Manchester? I'm working until 8, but we could meet after that - see if Rick et al are free...

From: [identity profile] vg-ford.livejournal.com


Um, every other Tuesday he does - I can ask him if he'd like to take a calligraphy class...

From: [identity profile] vg-ford.livejournal.com


Pretty much. And while I agree with #4, the others really are not conducive to running a business.

From: [identity profile] domynoe.livejournal.com


I agree with #4 as well, BUT I'm also very aware that I'm, as someone said earlier, playing in their sandbox. They have the right to decide what goes on their site, as long as it's legal in whatever country they're in (at least, I think that's the way it works? A U.S. company must abide by U.S. laws, but a Japanese company isn't held by those same laws--I think this is why copyright issues have been so huge in the past; some countries had no problem with copyright violations).

From: [identity profile] aulus-poliutos.livejournal.com


It was the copyright issues on LJ that made me stop using it actively.

And if I weren't too lazy to set up a new account and move my f-list, I'd have deleted my journal entirely. So I only deleted some posts.

From: [identity profile] suelder.livejournal.com


I'm with you. I post maybe, once a week. If I get around to it.

It would have been nice if they'd said something ahead of time though.

From: [identity profile] daveybeauchamp.livejournal.com

raises hand


what is going on? why are people striking?

D

From: [identity profile] vg-ford.livejournal.com


I can see that, but it's still a business. They can run it anyway they like.

From: [identity profile] daveybeauchamp.livejournal.com

Re: raises hand


Cool. I had no idea things had gone bad. just let me know if you change blogs because so will I. And I have to thank you since stellar I have had a bunch of people lj friend me thanks to you. So you rock! I can't wait for Raven.

D

From: [identity profile] cucumberseed.livejournal.com


Meh. I probably won't post, mostly because I want to support the krazy kidz doing this, not because I think it's necessarily the most productive thing to do. That said, I have no problem with anyone who's going to be posting.

From: [identity profile] joncwriter.livejournal.com


I've already decided to be a wiseass and post every hour on the hour from both [livejournal.com profile] die_joncswerk (my free account--which has ads, mind you) and [livejournal.com profile] joncwriter (my permanent account--just so I can say "neener neener" ;) ). Nothing long and rambling (I have to work too! :p ), just little bits and bobs. You were warned. ;)

From: [identity profile] therealmutley.livejournal.com


I have a free account and there are no ads on it. I'm confused as to what is happening lol

From: [identity profile] ladyariadne.livejournal.com


I will agree with you.

Are things for free good? sure. but people expect an awful lot nowadays. having been in the whole shebang for years.. I have wathced ALL the major services get bought out and change. from three in carnation prior to yahoo.. to the lj.... to other servers. Very little can afford to be "free", and people do not like to stop and think there is really no true "free".

all these other "free" services will eventually, even if slowly, go the way of all the others. mark my words.

From: [identity profile] vg-ford.livejournal.com

Re: raises hand


It's going have to get really ugly here for me to move - I'd have to learn Wordpress, and I'm SO not techy. :) Which is why the mixer board will be coming with me to Raven, so I can pick Tee and Rick's brains about it.

From: [identity profile] vg-ford.livejournal.com


I can respect that. :)

How's your grandmother doing? Email me/call me this weekend?

From: [identity profile] cucumberseed.livejournal.com


She's doing alright, AFAIK. I am not striking today, though, changed my mind. It seems like the strike has been co-opted by Russian antisemites, and that, well, that will keep me commenting and posting all damn day.

From: [identity profile] vg-ford.livejournal.com


That's because you created yours before March 12th. That's the last date that you could have done it without ads. :)
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